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Concern over non-EU doctors’ access to 2016 training posts

The letter thanks the Minister for his intent to ensure that “all competent non-EU doctors” are eligible for training jobs from 2016.

The Minister has promised to put forward an amendment to the Medical Practitioners Act 2007, removing the necessity of internship equivalency for non-EU doctors seeking to apply for training posts.

However, the OMI letter notes that while Minister Varadkar had mentioned that a proposed amendment would be tabled in January, “we are unsure when the amendment would come into effect”.

The correspondence states that, with regard to applying for the July 2016 intake, the application deadline for medicine-related specialties and subspecialties closes this month.

It notes that non-EU doctors to whom the amendment applies had sought to apply on a provisional basis for July 2016 training positions.

“However for unclear reasons RCPI did not entertain the idea and even declined to acknowledge the training those hapless non EU-doctors did in ‘non training’ jobs…OMI finds the decision of RCPI not to accept training post applications for the 2016 intake and denying training credit to non-EU cohort of doctors unfortunate and disappointing. OMI is certain this decision of RCPI would trigger further exodus of talented and ambitious non-EU doctors, especially from India and Pakistan, to the UK and other countries.”

A spokesperson for the RCPI told the Medical Independent (MI) it has been “a strong advocate” for the legislative change to remove this barrier to accessing training jobs.

The spokesperson added: “Basic Specialist Training (BST) is a curriculum-based programme of supervised clinical training. Doctors must be eligible for the trainee specialist division of the Irish Medical Council register at the time of application. The four Basic Specialty Training programmes delivered by the Royal College of Physicians of Ireland are:

 · The Irish Committee on Higher Training BST programme in General Internal Medicine

· The Institute of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists- BST programme in Obstetrics and Gynaecology

· The Faculty of Pathology – BST programme in Histopathology

· The Faculty of Paediatrics BST programme in General Paediatrics

 “Training bodies and their BST programmes are approved by the Irish Medical Council. Each postgraduate training body has clear guidelines around equivalence for training undertaken outside of Ireland as follows:

“For candidates applying to a Basic Specialist Training Programme, equivalence of training/experience will be recognised if the training which is being considered has been successfully completed and provided through a structured programme formally recognised by a national training body in one of the following jurisdictions: UK-Programmes approved by the Royal College of Physicians; Australia and New Zealand-Programmes approved by the Royal Australasian College of Physicians; US-ACGME Approved Residency Programmes; Canada- Programmes Approved by the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada; and OMAN-Fellowship programme of the OMAN Medical Specialist Board OMSB.”

  1. shakya bhattacharjee on November 16, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    The RCPI has forgotten that it is 2015 not 1564 or 1654. Dynamism without dilution of standards that should be the mantra of a modern day institution. I am afraid to say that UK Royal Colleges have moved ahead in this regard whereas RCPI is still stuck in the quagmire of bureaucracy, non-dynamism . This attitude of RCPI is not going to improve their position among non EU doctors.
    RCPI failed to answer some other important questions. RCPI answer could not justify what they did to the BST post applicants where no BST equivalence certificate is needed. Nor did RCPI could justify their position for non EU doctors who already have BST equivalence certificate]
    Time has come when RCPI or any other Royal Colleges should stop using overseas doctors only as the instrument to generate revenues

  2. shakya bhattacharjee on November 16, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    The RCPI has forgotten that it is 2015 not 1564 or 1654. Dynamism without dilution of standards that should be the mantra of a modern day institution. I am afraid to say that UK Royal Colleges have moved ahead in this regard whereas RCPI is still stuck in the quagmire of bureaucracy, non-dynamism . This attitude of RCPI is not going to improve their position among non EU doctors.
    RCPI failed to answer some other important questions. RCPI answer could not justify what they did to the BST post applicants where no BST equivalence certificate is needed. Nor did RCPI could justify their position for non EU doctors who already have BST equivalence certificate]
    Time has come when RCPI or any other Royal Colleges should stop using overseas doctors only as the instrument to generate revenues

  3. dr reeta chander parkash on November 14, 2015 at 4:59 am

    I have clear fcps part 2 in gynae and also mrcog part 1 can I get a job in Ireland.

  4. Ammara on November 14, 2015 at 4:09 am

    I am a graduate from Pakistan and i hold gmc registration (full ) i have also passed.mrcog part 1
    What are.my chances.of obtaining a speciality training seat.in gynae obs in ireland

  5. Ahmad Farooq on November 13, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    Can I enter any subspecialty of medicine if I have completed FCPS in internal medicine from pakistan. Please guide me.

  6. Dr Saeed Ahmad Khan on November 13, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Thanks for giving an opportunity to doctors from Pakistan to work n will equipped hospital.I personally interested to do post fellowship training in internal medicine there. Would you please elaborate this program so we can benefit from the same. Thanks Dr SaeedAhmadKhan Assistant professor of medicine Bolan Medical college Quetta

  7. Mohamed Gamal on November 13, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    Is there no plans for establishing such training programs for general surgery & its subspecialties in the near future?

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